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Old 02-25-2013, 09:14 AM   #1
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MMSPL two home plate system?

I was told we will be using two home plates this year. One the catcher/batter will use. Anther another the running (from third) will use. As i understand (and someone correct me if i'm wrong) runners are now to touch home plate (the running plate) and catchers will be required to use the one for balls/strikes. this system replaces the "line in the sand" system previously used.

Has anyone used this system before, at first it seemed kinda goofy but the more i think about it sounds like it might result in better calls.

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Old 02-25-2013, 09:25 AM   #2
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here is a cut of the rule from another league. (MMSPL is down right now)

(2) Second Home Plate – The League uses two home plates. The
second home plate will be located 8-10 feet from the back
tip of home plate on an extended line from 1st base. Defensive
players must touch the original home plate/mat and runners
must touch the second home plate. Runners touching the
original home plate are out.
All defensive plays at home plate are force outs.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:29 PM   #3
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I've played with it before and it works well. The key is to have a 2nd home plate that doesn't get slippery when wet. Often the type of plate we used would be abolished and the use of the line would need to be reinstated because the 2nd home plate was like ice when stepped on if it even had a little bit of rain on it.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:45 PM   #4
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I don't get it. If the plate is not live then why go through all that trouble...just use the line. After all it is league where the concern should be player safety.

Just my 0.02
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:47 PM   #5
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I was told the plate was safer... i'm with tbatti doesn't seem safe, however the calls might be better? hard to say.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:11 PM   #6
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its definitely safer, just harder to make the call for an ump. I usually stay away from changes that make an umps calls even tougher TBH cause it just makes more issues.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:50 PM   #7
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Really bro... tougher for umps... thats not good. i was thinking it might be easier. and by the sounds of it not safer either if that plate slides around as Tbatti said.. yet another rule change that sound good on paper.
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Old 02-25-2013, 05:14 PM   #8
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It's easier to call a play with the 2nd plate as opposed to a line that fades out during the game. The plate at times can also be heard when contact is made by a foot unlike a line where you need to watch for when the foot actually touches the ground.
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the other problem i see with the line is nobody seems to be consistent with what they are watching for. is it when the foot crosses, touches? or when the chest crosses? where does the ump stamp? cause often it's difficult to stand in a position to get a good look at the line and home plate, and not get beaned by a wild throw.

seems like the plate would just be a little more specific, and therefore consistent on the calls. kinda like calls at 1st base with a safety bag
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I agree it would definitely be easier on the umps and lez be honest anything that can help out the umps is a great idea.
How many arguments have you seen or been a part of over where a foot was or wasn't, a plate would act like a bag and make the call waaaaay easier
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Sorry I was comparing the call to a live plate not a line. 2nd plate is better then a line for sure
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It's used in the States for the Senior World Championships, and World
Senior Games. Works great.

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