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Deuce
03-20-2012, 06:45 PM
Tomorrow at 4pm we will be hitting 2 NIW 27EL Z's (asa and utrip) we will be using brand new evil lights and regular evil BP balls (12 of each) the temperature is supposed to be 26 degrees. We will have at least 3 hitters (possibly 5) ranked from D-B with different hitting styles. The Z's are the only NIW bats we have but I'm dying to hit the FH52 and Avarice outside so I'm sure they will make an appearance. Tomorrow we will not leave the diamond until we have a unanimous decision We are planning to video tape the entire session, so baring any storms we should be able to have the answer the entire world has been waiting for...is the Z the real deal or real hype?

blueoveryou
03-20-2012, 06:48 PM
I look forward to reading the reviews

ZR27
03-20-2012, 06:54 PM
Awesome..

Its posted on my twitter :D

Deuce
03-20-2012, 06:56 PM
hitting real balls with the Z??

ill jump the gun on this RIP z nation :stir

evil lights are same as the hot dot classic

Freak88
03-20-2012, 07:14 PM
DILLIGAF cheerscheers

Tsuga
03-20-2012, 07:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxmUKVrT0iI

Freak88
03-20-2012, 07:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxmUKVrT0iI

EXACTLY cheers

bramptonfire
03-20-2012, 08:01 PM
I vote hype......lol

Tiny27
03-20-2012, 08:08 PM
evil lights are same as the hot dot classic

i was just being "that guy" :stir

you said you were hitting the reg evils too and thats all i was gettin at :cool:

bluejay7
03-20-2012, 08:23 PM
Wes Vickery put on a show today blasting hot dots 380' for fun for his first time out this year with new out wrapper Zees!! +1 Nation. Review over.

ZR27
03-20-2012, 08:28 PM
1 miken guy stolen... Who's next? :D
Excellent work agent #7... Lol

Deuce
03-20-2012, 08:38 PM
i was just being "that guy" :stir

you said you were hitting the reg evils too and thats all i was gettin at :cool:

actually checking the specs of the evil balls i have yellow and orange are .52/300 (which is close to spo ball) and light white and orange .47/275 i believe which is the SPN ball

Tiny27
03-20-2012, 08:40 PM
actually checking the specs of the evil balls i have yellow and orange are .52/300 (which is close to spo ball) and light white and orange .47/275 i believe which is the SPN ball

oh, my bad, ill say im wrong when im wrong, i thought the reg evils were harder than that :bit-wallb

Deuce
03-20-2012, 08:40 PM
I could be wrong in saying the reg evils...i have the 52 and the light

crazylong
03-20-2012, 08:45 PM
I have never broken a bat in all my years playing, but over the past 4 days, 2 z's broken. Both bats had over 800 hits on it. Well worth the money I spent..

JUICE24
03-21-2012, 08:16 AM
I could be wrong in saying the reg evils...i have the 52 and the light

I believe both the hot dots from spn and the evil lights are 52/300 deuce

ZR27
03-21-2012, 08:34 AM
I believe both the hot dots from spn and the evil lights are 52/300 deuce

lighter buddy...

.52 core 200 to 225 comp...
do you remember leo and caddenhead hitting it on the screws at provs last year.. 30+ degree heat... and it went oh... 260'... LOL :tongue:

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 08:38 AM
We hit the New SPN hot dots last night. Could tell the difference when balls were in the air as well as sound. Ball seems to take off initially but then really loses its "carry" once it gets out there. The sound is pretty dull too imo due to its softness compared to other balls ie gray dot.

Gucci_17
03-21-2012, 08:48 AM
We hit the New SPN hot dots last night. Could tell the difference when balls were in the air as well as sound. Ball seems to take off initially but then really loses its "carry" once it gets out there. The sound is pretty dull too imo due to its softness compared to other balls ie gray dot.

Horrible!

This is not the way to get around shaved bats, this ball can mess with your swing, and takes the feel rite away from the hitter.

Another reason why SPN sucks:thumbsdn2:thumbsdn2

Captain Crunch
03-21-2012, 08:58 AM
I will be playing the least amount of spn as possible ! :thumbsdn2

Better bats n sh!ttier ball = bu!!sh!t !!!!!

Rip_It
03-21-2012, 09:19 AM
Remember to suck it in during the video Deuce... Don't need the Z hitting that belly... It will surely shatter! :)

TMAC68
03-21-2012, 09:21 AM
I will be playing the least amount of spn as possible ! :thumbsdn2

Better bats n sh!ttier ball = bu!!sh!t !!!!!

As said a few times (a few times by me too)

The public cried and cried about the bats, welp, u got your wish ppl, enjoy the "high bouncer" called the "hot dot"

Ball isnt terrible, but the ASA game was fine the way it was (ASA bats and Grey dots)

Rip_It
03-21-2012, 09:23 AM
Same disadvantage to both teams. Sucks you won't get that gratifying response of nailing the sweetspot anymore, but if it gets the cheaters out of the game... I'm all for it.

Deuce
03-21-2012, 09:33 AM
I believe both the hot dots from spn and the evil lights are 52/300 deuce

evil bp light (52) 52 COR-300lbs
Regular evil BP ball 48 COR, mid compression. (both specs from evil site)

SPN hot dot-.52 COR/ 275lbs (right off the worth website)
SPO hot dot-.52 COR/300lbs (based on the info i can find)

Rookie_8319
03-21-2012, 09:42 AM
We hit the New SPN hot dots last night. Could tell the difference when balls were in the air as well as sound. Ball seems to take off initially but then really loses its "carry" once it gets out there. The sound is pretty dull too imo due to its softness compared to other balls ie gray dot.

This is true. I tried hitting these balls with my well broken in Plague, was HORRIBLE! Balls were not going anywhere and it honestly sounded like a mush ball. I hit it with the Z1000 and it was going very well and sounded much better. If were using the "hot dot" in SS this year, I will be trading all of my broken in Combats (which I am doing now) for some newer sticks that I think will preform better with the "hot dot". From a Combat perspective, I'm very interested to see how the new Pure and Avarice hits the "hot dot".

Deuce
03-21-2012, 09:45 AM
I found a letter on the UTRIP website when they announced the ball and it states that stiffer bats will perform better then softer bats.

jb16
03-21-2012, 09:48 AM
it states that stiffer bats will perform better then softer bats.thats what she said

ZR27
03-21-2012, 09:50 AM
I found a letter on the UTRIP website when they announced the ball and it states that stiffer bats will perform better then softer bats.

Z1000 does not have a "soft feel" barrel

but nice... TJ, Juice and i have found our gamer for mush then

WORTH BAMBOO... ftw :tongue:
(does it need stamps?)

Gucci_17
03-21-2012, 10:31 AM
This is true. I tried hitting these balls with my well broken in Plague, was HORRIBLE! Balls were not going anywhere and it honestly sounded like a mush ball. I hit it with the Z1000 and it was going very well and sounded much better. If were using the "hot dot" in SS this year, I will be trading all of my broken in Combats (which I am doing now) for some newer sticks that I think will preform better with the "hot dot". From a Combat perspective, I'm very interested to see how the new Pure and Avarice hits the "hot dot".

I knew it was a matter of time big guy. The asa Z is your best bet hitting the new hot dot, the flex's and ext were also doing ok with them, but because of the disk teck inside the Z, it still gives you a better "Bat on ball" feel, and that's huge !

Rookie_8319
03-21-2012, 10:41 AM
I knew it was a matter of time big guy. The asa Z is your best bet hitting the new hot dot, the flex's and ext were also doing ok with them, but because of the disk teck inside the Z, it still gives you a better "Bat on ball" feel, and that's huge !

Yeah man, I was pretty bummed out after hitting the hot dot with my Plague, but it just can't even compare to the Z1000. It's a totally different feel from anything I've hit before and the walls of the Z still make it feel like your hitting an actual ball. Will see if I can get a few other sticks to test out next week and see how it reacts to the ball. Express14 had a NOW Freak+ Players Model (very stiff) and it was hitting the hot dot really well, so yeah, stiffer, harder bats are by far better with this ball.

ZR27
03-21-2012, 10:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_3YGPyyug&sns=em

jb16
03-21-2012, 10:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_3YGPyyug&sns=emshould have went box to get pitcher to toss strikes:stir

Bubz
03-21-2012, 11:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm_3YGPyyug&sns=em
Don't any of you softball whores have a screen FFS!!! You guys are playing with your life I tell ya. LOL

Quit being so cheap and pool some of that 'A' cash together and get a screen!!!

Fence57
03-21-2012, 11:59 AM
Don't any of you softball whores have a screen FFS!!! You guys are playing with your life I tell ya. LOL

Quit being so cheap and pool some of that 'A' cash together and get a screen!!!

They probably don't like hitting at their pitchers as much as we like hitting at you Bubz! :stir

TMAC68
03-21-2012, 12:01 PM
They probably don't like hitting at their pitchers as much as we like hitting at you Bubz! :stir

One of our return players this year holds the record in hitting me! :)

U KNOW WHO U ARE!!!

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 12:11 PM
Don't any of you softball whores have a screen FFS!!! You guys are playing with your life I tell ya. LOL

Quit being so cheap and pool some of that 'A' cash together and get a screen!!!

big screen like that wont fit in my little civic ;)

Wowzer89311
03-21-2012, 12:16 PM
big screen like that wont fit in my little civic ;)
can you not break one of those juggs lites down to fit in?

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 12:23 PM
Was just joking with Bubz, I don't drive a civic...I wouldnt be able to fit anything in there if I did!

jb16
03-21-2012, 12:24 PM
big screen like that wont fit in my little civic ;)
take out all the speakers :D

ZR27
03-21-2012, 12:36 PM
take out all the speakers :D

and the bootleg DVD's :D

ZR27
03-21-2012, 12:50 PM
back on topic..

head to Peterborough to witness the review of the week..
Jesse "consumer reports/deuce" Marsh
breaking down the Z

All show? or no go?? :D

Deuce
03-21-2012, 12:53 PM
back on topic..

head to Peterborough to witness the review of the week..
Jesse "consumer reports/deuce" Marsh
breaking down the Z

All show? or no go?? :D

that is the question that we will answer today live at 4pm from Peterborough Ontario!!

Screen-check
Balls-check
sun and warm-check

perfect conditions to find out if Z nation is legit or if they should quit!

Felks32
03-21-2012, 12:54 PM
One of our return players this year holds the record in hitting me! :)

U KNOW WHO U ARE!!!

Is this me? Do I win?

TMAC68
03-21-2012, 12:56 PM
Is this me? Do I win?

sure as hell is! :D

Felks32
03-21-2012, 12:58 PM
sure as hell is! :D

I didn't hit middle once last year...and I can hit oppo now!

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 01:14 PM
that is the question that we will answer today live at 4pm from Peterborough Ontario!!

Screen-check
Balls-check
sun and warm-check

perfect conditions to find out if Z nation is legit or if they should quit!

Never quit man....Z Express will run as long as I breathe brother!

ZR27
03-21-2012, 01:18 PM
Never quit man....Z Express will run as long as I breathe brother!

dont worry bro..

last year was hype machine... (bat was NO WHERE in Canada)

this year its hype machine + the bat selling itself.. :)

only a matter of time before Deuce says HOOOOO... and ZEEEEEE!! :D

Deuce
03-21-2012, 01:23 PM
dont worry bro..

last year was hype machine... (bat was NO WHERE in Canada)

this year its hype machine + the bat selling itself.. :)

only a matter of time before Deuce says HOOOOO... and ZEEEEEE!! :D

hahaha is there room on the hoooo train for a some zzzzzzzzzz's put it all together and you get hooozzzzze

bdehaan
03-21-2012, 02:57 PM
I love this bat. I want more. I only have 2 utrip and 1 ASA lol.

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 02:59 PM
I love this bat. I want more. I only have 2 utrip and 1 ASA lol.

Good to hear man....If you want more, stock is running low...as they will not be making anymore. Swing what you have now or pick some more up immediately. The wait for the new stamp has begun. May/June ETA:D

Gucci_17
03-21-2012, 03:19 PM
They're giving Zeeeee's out down here in Florida, If I don't get one, I'll be trading for one.

Johnston
03-21-2012, 03:22 PM
They're giving Zeeeee's out down here in Florida, If I don't get one, I'll be trading for one.

are they demoing the 2013 down there Karl?

Sharpie85
03-21-2012, 03:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AML7J8bxhpY&feature=channel

Here is some good stuff!

Gucci_17
03-21-2012, 03:26 PM
are they demoing the 2013 down there Karl?

That I'm not sure off, I hope they're, but have a feeling they don't have any :bit-wallb

The training starts tomorrow.

I'll start a thread, and review all the new bats.

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 03:29 PM
Define "giving" Karl...they are giving away for nothing??? You know these companies have so much money when they do that! lol

I know TPS USA was backordered a couple weeks, you may or may not see them Karl.

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 03:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AML7J8bxhpY&feature=channel

Here is some good stuff!

*thumbs down*

Gucci_17
03-21-2012, 03:33 PM
Define "giving" Karl...they are giving away for nothing??? You know these companies have so much money when they do that! lol

I know TPS USA was backordered a couple weeks, you may or may not see them Karl.

The last 90 guys last weekend were given Zeee's from TPS. They new they were gunna be down here a year ago.


3 years ago, a bat was demoed here, no labels nothing on the bat. Guy used it in the home run derby they have here, and won. That bat was the first Zeee made. TPS sent the guy the bat, and 2 Zeeee's with 2011 labels.

Cool story.

Gucci_17
03-21-2012, 03:35 PM
Not all 90 guys btw, 20 or so that got TPS stuff, you draw a number, if you get TPS's number, then you get a Z or a catty, plus a ball bag.

dougiefresh
03-21-2012, 03:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AML7J8bxhpY&feature=channel

Here is some good stuff!

Nice form on the pitcher, is that Kyle or a skinny female version?

ZR27
03-21-2012, 03:54 PM
smack talk on twitter :D

Haker
03-21-2012, 04:12 PM
With it being 410, I figured we would have gotten our first update "Z broken"....







Just stiring the pot.... :)

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 04:18 PM
With it being 410, I figured we would have gotten our first update "Z broken"....







Just stiring the pot.... :)

If they are hitting hot dots it will never break:D

Johnston
03-21-2012, 04:25 PM
With it being 410, I figured we would have gotten our first update "Z broken-IN, SPITTING FIRE"....







Just stiring the pot.... :)

fixed it lol.

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 06:59 PM
Its pretty quiet...deuce must be having a tough time writing how much he loves the Z!
Lol just stirring the pot up! :D

ZR27
03-21-2012, 07:04 PM
hes driving his car over the barrel, so he can say he broke one :tongue:

Rip_It
03-21-2012, 07:38 PM
hes lightly tickling a feather over the barrel, so he can say he broke one :tongue:

Fixed it for you bro!

Bigshawn
03-21-2012, 07:45 PM
Fixed it for you bro!

Just because you break things on posts doesn't make you a masher.:stir

Rip_It
03-21-2012, 07:46 PM
Just because you break things on posts doesn't make you a masher.:stir

Haven't done that in 2 years!! lol

Ripken8
03-21-2012, 07:50 PM
Its pretty quiet...deuce must be having a tough time writing how much he loves the Z!
Lol just stirring the pot up! :D

This is your answer..

Z - inconclusive, Combat wins ...

Captain Crunch
03-21-2012, 07:54 PM
This is your answer..

Z - inconclusive, Combat wins ...

Yep thats the answer i got , Avarice won ......

nolti27
03-21-2012, 07:57 PM
This is your answer..

Z - inconclusive, Combat wins ...

Well said Sir lol

TMAC68
03-21-2012, 08:20 PM
Avarice won on the lights, Z won on the regular....hence the inconclusive....

Jaker
03-21-2012, 09:41 PM
Was there and I can confirm that without a doublt the Z was better for distance and better for pop. Jesse is aware of this and he also held up on his swing while swinging the Z.

TMAC68
03-21-2012, 09:56 PM
Was there and I can confirm that without a doublt the Z was better for distance and better for pop. Jesse is aware of this and he also held up on his swing while swinging the Z.

Cpt. Combat????? Noooooooooooooo

Lol

bluejay7
03-21-2012, 11:22 PM
Was there and I can confirm that without a doublt the Z was better for distance and better for pop. Jesse is aware of this and he also held up on his swing while swinging the Z.

Quote of the day!

Wes Vickery
03-22-2012, 07:40 AM
After trying the Z I do have to say that I am now a believer of the bat! It had me and newf swinging 3 rounds of bp and it held up fantastic! Great feel to it and lots of pop! IMO a softer feeling bat! I think its to early to say Ive jumped ship, just waiting for the miken guy to let me try the nxt and the combat guy let me have a go with the avarice and pure.

Deuce
03-22-2012, 07:51 AM
jake as usual is full of Sh1t I have the video evidence that proves without a doubt the Z is no better then any other bat on the market. Jake did not hit the averice so he has no say in the matter althouhg he did hit kendy reload for 10 swings (which were his best hits of that round i might add). I will post video later, Jake can say i held up while swinging the z all he wants. Video does not lie. I hit more balls harder and deeper with he avarice then i did the Z. The Z did have a better sound then the combats but the ball went further with the Avarice, even though the sound would make you think otherwise. The third member of the group maltaman said he did like the feel and sound of the Z but once again his furthest shots were with the Avarice in his last rd. Maltaman and I had the pleasure of trying to hit Jakes brutal pitching...if there was a variable that was it. Maybe i got better pitching with the Avarice?? Who knows....but I will say this, like any cult Z nation has its believers who believe their way is the only way, without facts or proof to back it up. Although i do not possess the proof to end Z nation, I think this review is enough to prove that Z nation is not the savour of the softball world.


We put around 180 swings from NIW we left the wrapper on for 100 hits as per Z nation hand book

Final Break down

EVIL LIGHTS

Distance-Averice, z1000, FH52
exit speed-Averice,z1000
Sound-Z1000,Averice
Feel-Z1000,Averice

Evil BP

Distance-FH52,Z1000,Averice
Exit speed-Z1000
Sound Z1000,Averice
Feel Z1000

Combats have a softer feel then the z1000 so when combining that with the soft balls it almost feels like hitting an indoor ball; however the end result is better with the combats. after all we play this game for results...Evan davis hit an og plague and it sounded like a wet noodle, but the ball was still flying. Evan did have a roind with the Z and hit it fairly well, however his opinon was the same as mine...the bat is no better then anything else.

Gucci_17
03-22-2012, 07:56 AM
jake as usual is full of Sh1t I have the video evidence that proves without a doubt the Z is no better then any other bat on the market. Jake did not hit the averice so he has no say in the matter althouhg he did hit kendy reload for 10 swings (which were his best hits of that round i might add). I will post video later, Jake can say i held up while swinging the z all he wants. Video does not lie. I hit more balls harder and deeper with he avarice then i did the Z. The Z did have a better sound then the combats but the ball went further with the Avarice, even though the sound would make you think otherwise. The third member of the group maltaman said he did like the feel and sound of the Z but once again his furthest shots were with the Avarice in his last rd. Maltaman and I had the pleasure of trying to hit Jakes brutal pitching...if there was a variable that was it. Maybe i got better pitching with the Avarice?? Who knows....but I will say this, like any cult Z nation has its believers who believe their way is the only way, without facts or proof to back it up. Although i do not possess the proof to end Z nation, I think this review is enough to prove that Z nation is not the savour of the softball world.


We put around 180 swings from NIW we left the wrapper on for 100 hits as per Z nation hand book

Final Break down

EVIL LIGHTS

Distance-Averice, z1000, FH52
exit speed-Averice,z1000
Sound-Z1000,Averice
Feel-Z1000,Averice

Evil BP

Distance-FH52,Z1000,Averice
Exit speed-Z1000
Sound Z1000,Averice
Feel Z1000

Combats have a softer feel then the z1000 so when combining that with the soft balls it almost feels like hitting an indoor ball; however the end result is better with the combats. after all we play this game for results...Evan davis hit an og plague and it sounded like a wet noodle, but the ball was still flying. Evan did have a roind with the Z and hit it fairly well, however his opinon was the same as mine...the bat is no better then anything else.

Public Relations post of the year to get more respect from Sponsored COMbat players and reps.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Or a Zeee just doesn't fit your belly, I mean swing.

bluejay7
03-22-2012, 07:58 AM
No bat is technically better than any other bat, otherwise everyone would swing one the same bat! I'm not gonna tell you the Z is the best bat ever made and you all should buy one. But I will say that it is a great stick with plenty of pop. Everyone has their own opinions, I have mine. I like the Z and what it has to offer. I also like the fact that we as a group (Z Nation) have come together and have become something bigger than the bat. I don't see the other companies doing this too much which is why it is so much fun being part of Z Nation. I'm still going to believe Jaker :D

Deuce
03-22-2012, 08:01 AM
Gucci i have said over and over again a bat is a bat....what i like, you may hate and vice versa. Very possible the Z didnt fit my swing I am not saying it is a bad bat, I am saying it did not out perform the others. The cheap price and unlimited returns is a great selling feature to get TPS back on the map, and the Z nation stuff is great promotion by the members of this site to increase sales and get others to try the bat. Public relations post(s) of the year have to go to Z nation hands down.

Deuce
03-22-2012, 08:03 AM
No bat is technically better than any other bat, otherwise everyone would swing one the same bat! I'm not gonna tell you the Z is the best bat ever made and you all should buy one. But I will say that it is a great stick with plenty of pop. Everyone has their own opinions, I have mine. I like the Z and what it has to offer. I also like the fact that we as a group (Z Nation) have come together and have become something bigger than the bat. I don't see the other companies doing this too much which is why it is so much fun being part of Z Nation. I'm still going to believe Jaker :D

you are ahead of the curve in this respect....

TMAC68
03-22-2012, 08:07 AM
Jess, u told me last night that the Z was the best in distance with the REG balls?!?! hmmmmmmmm...Have the BBM should anyone wanna see it :)

Glad u gave it a shot, I do agree, if Combats work for u, great!! Its like Chudder and Miken...When u hit the DC consistently 40000000000 ft, why change?! :)

ZR27
03-22-2012, 08:23 AM
dont rip him... respect Deuce's review :)

But, Deuce... which bat hit the farthest ball lastnite? :tongue:
(hint: none of the ones mentioned in the review)

i dont think you should move away from "that" bat :D

cools77
03-22-2012, 08:27 AM
dont rip him... respect Deuce's review :)

But, Deuce... which bat hit the farthest ball lastnite? :tongue:
(hint: none of the ones mentioned in the review)

i dont think you should move away from "that" bat :D

Im guessing a...................NXT??

ZR27
03-22-2012, 08:34 AM
Im guessing a...................NXT??

older, but same line of bats... just didnt have the new stamp though :)

heres my brief history of the Z:

2012 Z - a bat i saw for the first time last may 2011 in the first SS event.. that completely destroyed "performance wise" everything we had at the bp diamond with only 20 swings on it.. couple that with an SPO gold dot, and you had a rocket launcher right out the gate..
people swinging the 2012 Z in the SS last year: 1 (gucci)
only place to get a 2012 Z: USA

i ordered one immediately the next week..

Deuce
03-22-2012, 08:42 AM
HAHAHA Lexx....story goes like this a guy at the diamond had a utrip FX700 there he hit a few times and thought it was dead. I said let me have a swing with it. Hit a regular Evil BP ball one swing I then handed it back and said looks good to me LOL....

Deuce
03-22-2012, 08:46 AM
I think Z nation has somehow hacked my computer...Im blaming Lexx for this. Plugged camera into the computer to upload videos, got a message saying video was corruted which is weird cause we all watched it last night and I watched again this morning. So i unplug camera and try to turn it on. As soon as i turn it on I get a message saying need to format card which is really going to piss me off as I have videos and pics of my kids on there that I don't want to lose....anyone have any advice? I tried putting the xd card in the card reader on a different laptop and get the same message "need to format card before use" anyone help me??

bluejay7
03-22-2012, 08:47 AM
HAHAHA Lexx....story goes like this a guy at the diamond had a utrip FX700 there he hit a few times and thought it was dead. I said let me have a swing with it. Hit a regular Evil BP ball one swing I then handed it back and said looks good to me LOL....

U going Miken now???? :stir

Deuce
03-22-2012, 08:47 AM
Jess, u told me last night that the Z was the best in distance with the REG balls?!?! hmmmmmmmm...Have the BBM should anyone wanna see it :)

Glad u gave it a shot, I do agree, if Combats work for u, great!! Its like Chudder and Miken...When u hit the DC consistently 40000000000 ft, why change?! :)

I said Z hit better then the avarice with regular balls....FH was not even mentioned

Deuce
03-22-2012, 08:49 AM
U going Miken now???? :stir

I swung the FX 700 last half of the season last year really liked it. But ive been a combat guy for such a long time.